Luckily I'm the kinda guy who also has a laptop, but nvidia drivers seem to just be some exe files, not the dll type thing I'd expect.
Putting them on anither USB drive (I'm the kinda guy with multiple USB keys around) and navigating to it in browse doesn't show any matching files.
Oh. The mother board came with a dvd. Maybe it's the mother board, Maybe it's on there?
Searching around it seems that I might have up update the bios to work with win 11. Or maybe change the pch-fw config?
That's a hardware tpm. Trusted computing they call it. Encryption keys. Apparently it needs to be enabled for win 11.
The bios update files come with a exe that has to be run to work out a file name. But I don't have a currently working windows machine on which to run the renamer.
So I need a working windows machine to run the bios update the get the windows machine working.
Why does this file need renaming? Why not just name it right? Hummm.
Okay, so if you use Ubuntu's iso burner or you dd from the command line you build a broken boot image.
Instead, you need to format the drive with ex fat and then copy the individual files from the iso archive onto the newly formatted partition.
Don't use fat32. Some files are too large for fat32.
It's got as far as asking for my registration key now.
Day two of trying to install windows.
People online say that error might indicate bad ram or a bad install disk.
So I removed most of the ram and tried this sd card reader that I have to hold together with an elastic band.
And we have some success.
Dunno if it's the ram or install disk that's questionable now though. Poor scientific method changing both at once.
Localization, keyboard input selection, network connection selection, updates, name the machine after a buffy character, and it does the second reboot.
Now it's asking for a pin
Oh, apparently it can be a full password. Phew!
Location services? No thanks. It never moves.
Find my device? It's huge and lives in a cupboard! What? No.
Diagnostics to MS? No thanks. Though there is no "no", only a "required only" :(
Inkling any typing can be sent directly to ms to be "improved". Ugh. God no.
If I want the adverts I see to be tailored to my tastes I can let ms spy on me to decide which ones. There is no option to have no adverts in my os, so best option is "the ads you see will be more generic" :(
Let aps use an advertising id?? Fuck no.
Needed a shell to fetch my passwords from my unix machines so installed git for git bash.
Graphics drivers seem to have installed okay. Reboot required again though. Seemed a very quick reboot but wasn't paying much attention. Hopefully there was a moment I could press an f key to boot from another drive or the duel boot to Linux could be tricky.
Changed graphics setting: nvidia control panel / manage 3d / power management = Max performance. We don't need do save battery with this machine.
Apparently I need to "activate" windows before I can pick a dark theme. And I guess my old motherboards licence key ain't gonna cut it.
No free upgrade for me :(
It wants to update and restart again.
But at a quick glance, and baring in mind it's just been installed in about the fastest computer I could buy, it seemed okay.
Assuming there's a dark theme the task-bar and widgets work well together and the widgets can be easily turned the fuck off.
The chat-app and the link to the microsoft store in the chat app could be easily removed with just four quick clicks.
The search feels creepy the way it combines web-results with on-machine results and so presumably shares all on-machine queries with the web. Someone on the web at least.
It too can be removed from the task bar easily.
Git-bash worked well and Firefox is fast.
The start-menu is fast sane and not ugly, but again feels a bit creepy with search and adverts of sorts in it.
Now I'm going to close it down and remove the hard-drive, plug in the other one and boot the Debian installer.
I've done this one more like a dozen times this millennium but very new hardware is often a pain and I've never tried to do it with a ZFS partition before.
I will not have to pay 200 pounds, whether I pass "go" on the upgrade escalator monopoly game or not.
Didn't literally put /home on ZFS in the end, but I did put symlinks from /home to some ZFS pools.
~/doc for current documents/projects. It will be backed up and it's on a fast nvme drive, but it's too small for everything so:
~/arc is for archived documents/projects. It will be backed up too, but it's on a much bigger HDD
~/pub for music and movies and stuff doesn't need backing up.
Took fucking *ages* to move all that data onto emergency store so I could add the drives to zfs and then move them onto zfs partitions.
Done now though.
I said of Debian install that "Very new hardware is often a pain".
And sure enough, the Wifi and Bluetooth and Microphone-socket are the hardware that's tricky.
Possibly need a newer kernel for the mic at least.
So. Upgrading to testing/bookworm...
Fuck me I hate the bleeding edge.
Apparently the drivers I downloaded from Nvidia like last week are out of date for the Testing kernel. Had to download newer ones.
Maybe I downloaded a "stable" instead of "newest" or something.
With that fixed I'm on Bookworm now. And sound isn't working at all. Pavctrl can't connect to Pulseaudio.
I through Pulseaudio was dead now, replaced by pipewire?
Pipewire is indeed the sound-driver in Debian now. But there's a package "pipewire-pulse" that gives Pipewire it's Pulseaudio interface.
That got uninistalled during the switch to Testing I think.
Still didn't fix the internal microphone socket though. Hey ho. A five dollar USB sound-card works.
Bluetooth on this Rog Strix board only sort-of works and only on a hard-reboot. After a soft reboot it disappears. Seems likely these issues aren't even fixed in the kernel yet, let alone made their way to Debian Testing.
Hopefully one day.
The wifi works at least, now I have the latest firmware.
Then it just quit, but it worked properly next launch.
Selected #steamvr and clicked "install", then when it had downloaded "Run".
"Not fully installed, some features missing"
it wants to do the room-setup, so I need to pair a controller. Right-click the controller icon and "pair" from the menu....
Blank window. Oh. : 🤔
What was that about not fully installed? There's a log saying
"Error: getcap is required to complete the SteamVR setup."
getcap is in /sbin on Debian. Lets try linking it into /usr/bin
> sudo ln -s /sbin/getcap /usr/bin/
> sudo ln -s /sbin/setcap /usr/bin/
That stops the error at least. Now try SteamVR again...
Now it asks for SU again to complete setup.
Pairing controllers works now, though it gave a lying error saying "the controller timed out" even though the pairing worked fine.
But, it says it can't see the headset.
Unplug it all, re-plug it all. Restart SteamVR.
Now it's stuck in some sort of upgrade loop. Downloading an update to SteamVR, saying it's complete right away and then starting again.
Restart the whole of steam... It won't stop. Force-quit it.
Now the headset is tracking, but one controller isn't, and the room-setup window auto-closes as soon as it opens.
Exit. It has quit, but continues to dump errors to the console. "ps" shows a bunch of processes still running. They respawn when they are killed.
Oh man. Reboot....
And they are available at a range of prices where the price seems to match the varying degrees of apparent dogyness of the site.
Presumably some of them are so dodgy they just won't work?
Is there a line where it becomes pirate? How much is it at that line and why can't I buy it at that price from MS directly?
Windows is so confusing.
Decide today how piratey you want to be!
For zero dollars you can be completely piratey and download a hack to avoid a licence key.
For ten dollars you can be fairly swashbuckling and buy a stolen licence key from someone who'll never know they lost it.
For thirty dollars you can be a crown-licenced privateer and buy second-hand bankruptcy windows licence stock.
For a hundred dollars you can be barely piratey at all and buy a student licence.
Or for two hundred you can be the full sucker not-pirate-at-all price what-are-you-a-lawyer price?
Is that how it works?
On a new windows 11 machine, I have installed:
= Network Privacy =
First things first, a VPN.
= Command Line =
ssh, git, bash, vim
I live on the internet, I flit from server to server asking "whoami" often to remember what machine I'm even operating.
I need these tools to operate a computer as a part of the network. It's how you move files between machines, it's how one machine controls another, it's the keys to admin life.
On windows, the git package installs a "git-bash", which is like a one-arm-tied-behind-your-back version of a proper Bash terminal but you can use it well enough to escape to a shell on a server with a real Gnu system and it'll run git and vim.
= Private Messaging =
Also great for sending copy/pastia between phones and other machines.
= Public Messaging =
Groups and chats that want a permanent record are better not in private-messenger Signal.
Plus many folks still not on Signal.
= Web =
With all the plugins as up-thread for defensive browsing.
Also no-doubt Chrome when I have to investigate some bug that only shows in Chrome.
That's the basic set to make the computer operate, but really you're gonna want level two as well to do any actual work.
= Graphics Editing =
Transitioning to the former, which seems nicer in many ways. But i still have many xcf files and Gimp habits and very little Krita practice so far. Will have both for a long while yet.
= Photo Development =
I don't do a lot of that though really. Probably won't come up at all in Windows
= 3d Modeling/Video Editing =
Blender is my favorite tool after Vim, if you want to edit something that isn't a text file then Blender is the first best bet. Mostly 3d-models and video and image compositing but so much more.
Two versions actually. Still need 2.79 for various reasons. Embarrassing. Must fix that.
= Sound Editing =
Basic fast easy.
It's been bought, and maybe getting more corporate/spy-y?
Which arguably might lead to better support and faster development
But it's open and there's a fork: Tenacity.
Tenacity haven't done an actual non-test release yet though so think about that later, they sound busy and excited though.
= Audio Workstation =
It's far more than just a wav-mixer like Audacity is. For making tunes not just touching up a quick wave.
= Spreadsheet / Print-editing / Office =
Though I don't do a huge amount of that, and what I do do I do in Debian anyway. So doubt I'll have to install it on Win.
They all work as well, (sometimes better) on Debian/Gnu/Linux, and most are install able by just passing their name to "apt".
> apt install wget gimp krita obs-studio audacity rhythmbox borgbackup darktable lmms rhythmbox ardour bash-completion clusterssh git usbutils
Does most of that and more.
Some have a dark theme on these days too!
Mostly they're free software, some of which I support by donation, and none of them try and make me feel like a criminal to extort 200 quid or apparently maliciously spy on me.
Blender literally says "You are breathtaking! ❤ Blender is now yours to keep. Forever." while Microsoft is all like "You are a criminal unless you give us 200 pounds. Psst, if you can't afford it, see the man in a trenchcoat there who we sold a giga-licence to on the cheap".
Steam and VR went onto Win11 without any mentionable issues at all. Much smoother than in Debian or a few years ago when I last did it in Win10.
My new computer is powerful enough to do something my old computer couldn't: Play the VR system and also at the same time run a MAME rom to emulate the arcade machine I'm playing in VR. I mean the old machine could do space-invaders, but it started dropping frames when trying to play Outrun.
@pre there is always that firmware update tool in Linux you could try before trying to install Windows again?
Besides that I can't tell about unity3d/vr in any distro, let alone Debian. My gut feeling is that you'll have better luck further downstream with Pop_OS! 😎👍
@pre pulse somehow won over enterprise, so anything that got ported to linux usually only supports that one interface. Distros pretty much had to make it the only option to compete, and I stopped trying to do audio on linux.
lmk if pipewire is as good as they say. I'll have zero windows machines in the near future and I'm curious about how well that's going to go in the sound department.
@rook Seems like Pipewire will be good when everything starts using it.
Pretty sure the problems I've failed to solve last night with the microphone are to do with the hardware rather than Pipewire.
Think I'm gonna have to get a USB sound-card. Even Testing isn't up to date enough, in fact sounds like the bugs are still not even fixed in Master.
Today I'll be trying to get Unity and VR to work and finally figure out if I'll need to pay for that Windows install or if I can wipe it fore more zfs space.
@pre I don't know how well it works, but you've got "winget" nowadays to install software on Windows 🙃👍
@pre Could you disable loading OneDrive on boot? Dunno if it's possible on 11, but would be worth looking into...
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